How to Tell the Drum and Fan Electric Motors Apart on a Nut Roasting Machine

How to Tell the Drum and Fan Electric Motors Apart on a Nut Roasting Machine

On a nut roasting machine, the drum motor and the fan motor are two motors that do two separate jobs on the same machine and see very different loads. The drum motor slowly turns a heavy, unbalanced mass at low speed through a gearbox or chain; the fan motor runs at high speed, passing hot air through the product or cooling the roasted product. To tell them apart during a replacement or new order, the nameplate, the connection type and the motor's position on the machine are read together.

Three-phase motor in front of a tool bench in a workshop
Roasting machines generally use low-power three-phase motors for the drum and fan (representative image).

Which motors are on a roasting machine?

Drum-type nut roasting machines heat products such as hazelnuts, peanuts, seeds, chickpeas, almonds and coffee inside a rotating cylinder. Depending on the machine type and size, there may be between two and five motors on it.

  • Drum drive motor: turns the roasting cylinder. It usually works through a gearbox, chain and sprocket, or rollers around the drum.
  • Hot air or exhaust fan motor: passes hot air from the burner through the drum, or extracts smoke and husk dust.
  • Cooling tray agitator motor: the roasted product discharged into the cooling tray is stirred by arms. This is also a low-speed geared drive.
  • Cooling fan motor: draws air from under the cooling tray to cool the product quickly.
  • Burner fan: the burner's own combustion air fan; it comes with the burner and is usually a part supplied by the burner manufacturer.

Simply saying "roaster motor" in an order does not specify which of these motors is meant. A nameplate photo and information on where the motor sits on the machine prevent confusion from the outset.

Features that distinguish the drum motor from the fan motor

The easiest way to tell the two motors apart on site is to look at the mechanical part they are connected to and the speed on the nameplate. The table below summarises general tendencies; the final decision is always made from the existing nameplate.

FeatureDrum motorFan motor
Typical speedMostly 4 or 6-pole (about 1,450 or 950 rpm)Mostly 2 or 4-pole (about 2,900 or 1,450 rpm)
ConnectionGearbox flange, chain sprocket or beltFan impeller directly on the shaft or by belt
Load characterConstant torque, high resistance when starting with a full drumLoad rising rapidly with speed, light at start
Critical pointStarting torque, gearbox ratio, direction of rotationSpeed and impeller match, proximity to hot air
Fault symptomDoes not start with a full drum, thermal relay tripsAirflow falls, motor gets very hot

The nameplates of these two motors can sometimes show the same power. For example, a 1.5 kW drum motor may be 6-pole, while a fan motor of the same power may be 2-pole. In that case ordering by power alone results in a motor at a completely wrong speed.

Drum motor: full start and constant torque

A roasting drum, together with the product inside, is a heavy and unbalanced mass. The product gathers on one side of the drum, and the motor has to lift this mass on every revolution. Torque is almost constant, regardless of speed.

The hardest moment is the start. If the drum has remained full after a power cut or a stop, the motor has to lift the weight of the product from the very first turn. For this reason, with the drum motor:

  • The gearbox ratio and motor speed should be kept the same as the existing machine; if drum speed changes, roasting time and product colour change.
  • Direction of rotation should be checked at first start; some drums turn in reverse for discharge, which is done by the reversing arrangement in the panel.
  • If drum speed is adjusted with an inverter, the general statement on our website applies: our three-phase series are suitable for speed control with a frequency inverter; for long periods of full-torque operation at low speed an external fan may be needed, and if the cable between drive and motor is long a dv/dt or sine filter is considered.

Fan motor: speed, impeller and hot air

The power drawn by a fan rises roughly with the cube of speed. For this reason speed is a far more critical parameter for the fan motor than for the drum. If a 2-pole motor is fitted instead of a 4-pole fan motor, the impeller doubles in speed and the power required rises roughly eightfold; the motor is overloaded within the first minutes. Conversely, if a 4-pole motor is fitted instead of a 2-pole fan motor, airflow falls, roasting time increases and the product is not roasted evenly.

The position of the fan motor also matters. On hot air fans the motor should sit outside the hot gas flow, on a base or bracket attached to the housing; while the impeller draws hot air, the motor should take its own cooling air from a cool environment. A standard motor is not designed to run directly inside a hot gas flow. There should be a heat-break flange or spacer between the motor and the hot housing, and the motor's fan inlet must stay clear. If the ambient temperature around the motor is high, this should be stated in the order.

Husk dust and oily smoke build up on the motor frame and fan cover; this layer reduces cooling. Periodic cleaning noticeably reduces fan motor overheating problems. For an overview of fan applications, see the fan and exhaust fan motors page.

If it is clear which motor you are replacing and what its speed is, review suitable HEM Motor models and current prices.

Prices and technical data are on the product pages; choose a model and order online.

Hypothetical example: two motors with worn-off nameplates

The following scenario is hypothetical. On a medium-sized roasting machine, the nameplates of two motors have become unreadable due to heat and cleaning. The first motor is flange-mounted on top of a gearbox; there is a drum sprocket at the gearbox output. The second motor sits on a bracket next to the exhaust duct, with a radial impeller fitted directly on its shaft.

The first motor is the drum motor. The ratio and input flange are read from the gearbox nameplate; if the drum speed is known, the motor speed can be calculated backwards. The second motor is the fan motor; the impeller diameter and the fan's nameplate are the main source for determining the speed. For both motors the frame dimensions are measured on site and compared with the technical drawings. Mounting arrangements are offered according to the frame and the flange size is confirmed with the order.

Example models

Aluminium frame models from the low power range commonly seen on roasting machines are listed below. All have IP55 protection, insulation class F and a 230/400 V (Δ/Y), 50 Hz supply.

  • 90L-6: 1.1 kW, 6-pole, 945 rpm, IEC 90L, rated torque 11.1 Nm. For geared drum or cooling tray drives.
  • 100L1-4: 2.2 kW, 4-pole, 1,450 rpm, IEC 100L, rated torque 14.5 Nm. For larger drums or 4-pole fans.
  • 90L-2: 2.2 kW, 2-pole, 2,895 rpm, IEC 90L, rated torque 7.26 Nm. For direct-coupled hot air or exhaust fans.

The fact that the 100L1-4 and 90L-2, both 2.2 kW, have different frames and speeds shows why ordering by power alone is not enough. The current price is shown on each product page.

Conclusion and what we need for a quotation

On a nut roasting machine, the drum motor is a low-speed, constant-torque drive, while the fan motor is a load that is very sensitive to speed and works close to hot air. In a replacement, each motor's own speed, connection and position are kept. Please send us:

  • A nameplate photo of the motor to be replaced and its job on the machine (drum, fan, cooling)
  • Connection type: gearbox flange, chain, belt or direct impeller
  • Gearbox nameplate or fan impeller diameter
  • Ambient conditions where the motor is located and whether there is an inverter

You can see suitable models and current prices on the buy electric motors page. Send the nameplate photo, speed and mounting details of your existing motor through the nameplate submission page and request a quotation for a suitable model. Our contact page is open for other questions.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can the drum motor and fan motor be swapped if they have the same power?

Usually not. Even at the same power, speed, frame and connection type differ. If the speed of a fan motor changes, the power required rises very quickly or the airflow falls.

Why does the roasting machine fan motor get so hot?

The motor may be too close to the hot gas flow or hot housing, the fan cover may be clogged with dust, or the speed may be too high for the impeller. Position and cleanliness are checked first.

What should be done if the motor does not start with a full drum?

The starting method and gearbox ratio should be checked. If possible, the product is discharged after stops before starting; enlarging the motor alone is not a solution.

How is a roaster motor with an unreadable nameplate ordered?

The model is determined from the motor's job on the machine, the nameplate of the gearbox or impeller it is connected to, and frame dimensions measured on site. Send this information together with photos.

HEM Motor Models Related to This Article

The cards show example models related to the topic. A suitable motor is not chosen by power alone: compare speed, voltage, mounting, shaft and connection dimensions on the product page; if unsure, send a photo of the existing motor’s nameplate on WhatsApp.

1.1 kW 1000 rpm Aluminium Frame Electric Motor 90L-6

90L-6

1.1 kW · 1000 rpm

  • Aluminium frame · IEC 90L
  • 945 rpm · IP55
  • Mounting: B3 foot; flange (B5/B14/B35) depending on frame — confirmed with the order

US$130.59 (€116.54)

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2.2 kW 1500 rpm Aluminium Frame Electric Motor 100L1-4

100L1-4

2.2 kW · 1500 rpm

  • Aluminium frame · IEC 100L
  • 1450 rpm · IP55
  • Mounting: B3 foot; flange (B5/B14/B35) depending on frame — confirmed with the order

US$178.61 (€159.40)

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2.2 kW 3000 rpm Aluminium Frame Electric Motor 90L-2

90L-2

2.2 kW · 3000 rpm

  • Aluminium frame · IEC 90L
  • 2895 rpm · IP55
  • Mounting: B3 foot; flange (B5/B14/B35) depending on frame — confirmed with the order

US$146.49 (€130.73)

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